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“Say what you want to say about me,” Palin said, “but I raised a combat vet. You can’t take that away from me.”

I truly don't understand what she's saying here. She raised a son who grew up to make his own decisions about which institutions and ideals to support. That's parenting in a nutshell. Does she want accolades for happening to be the mother of her son, because when her son was able to make his own decisions about which institutions and ideals to support, he decided to support institutions and ideals whose aims his mom happened to agree with?

If he'd decided to support an institution or ideal she did not agree with, would she then reject identical accolades from those who told her that she must be proud to have raised such a courageous, self-aware, self-sacrificing child, because the institution or ideal he decided to support was something she could not support?

Why does it seem like she wants to take credit for a decision her son made because she is his parent? It's not just Palin--my parents do this too, and I think a lot of parents do. If we make decisions that our parents agree with, they say that it's because they raised us right, and if we make decisions our parents disagree with, they not only say that they can't support our decision, but wonder where they went wrong raising us. It's natural for a parent to rejoice at the success of a child and be sad at their child's failures. But the measure of success of a parent as a parent must be composed of more than the parent's perception of what their child's successes or failures are, and the measure of success of a human being who has children must be composed of more than that human's perceived success or failure as a parent.

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29/8/10 20:40 (UTC)
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I think it's reasonable for a person to be proud of raising the sort of child they wanted to raise. If she wanted to raise the sort of son who would join the military and be successful there, and she did that, then I see no reason she shouldn't be proud and happy for having done that. I would hope that if he'd made different decisions she would still support and love him, even if she felt less satisfied with it, but it's fair to be happy your kid turned out the way you hoped he would.

Which is not to say anybody ELSE should necessarily use the same judgement. I might congratulate her if she'd raised a son who became a peace activist, even if she herself felt unsatisfied with that.

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30/8/10 12:39 (UTC)
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Ah, I see. Yes, I did miss your original point. With which I don't disagree very much, but I don't feel very strongly about it either. I tend to agree with seishonagon that this is more an issue of Palin's imprecise language, probably reflecting imprecise thinking, than of her genuinely believing the sort of things you're inferring from her sentence.

Of course, there *is* that inference to be made from the specific words she said, and if you're taking issue with her perpetuating the sort of mindset you're objecting to by using those words rather than others, regardless of what she actually means... well, I think I'd have to agree with you there. It's common, but it does mean more when someone with Palin's visibility says it on TV than when Sarah Q. Random from Podunk, Idaho says it to her family and friends.

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