we won't think poorly of you in RL or otherwise--unless you make a mistake, don't understand what it is you did, and are too busy taking offense to ask what you did and learn from the experience to stop making the mistake.
Well, ouch. Thanks for letting me know where I stand with you and your peers.
Incidentally, I'm not a self-described "fledgling feminist." I wrote "even if I am a fledgling in feminist theory compared to you". And that "if" to me means that I acknowledge that buria might know more about feminism than me. But I also acknowledge that that may not be true.
And it's nice that you're perfectly happy to explain away her sarcasm toward me by saying that I insulted her by linking to a feminism 101 blog (because obviously, once you've learned the basics, you will never ever make those mistakes again, so revisiting something from that level of knowledge is utterly valueless and automatically insulting- why didn't I think of that? (see, I can be sarcastic too)), but tell me that I'm too busy taking offense because I don't ask her to explain what I did to deserve her bile? Why is her offensive language towards me perfectly reasonable to you but my taking offense at it not?
(And no, I don't think that comments like "lastly, congrats on "reading a lot of feminist blogs". i write one. feminism isn't a monolith. perhaps one day you'll move beyond mainstream 101 blogs." are meant to be anything other than offensive and insulting.)
You have tried to explain to me why I insulted her (and you) by telling me that I draw a poor analogy, and linked to a feminism 101 blog, and your trying to explain is certainly more consideration than I got from her, but I'm really not buying those reasons as justifications for her actions. After all, you didn't like my analogy either, but felt no need to get sarcastic with me. And, as I implied above, I don't think that linking to that blog should be an automatic insult.
As for the suggestion to read her journal, thanks, but I'll pass. She suggested early on in her exchange to me that my "ciscentric white feminism" is completely irrelevant to her life as a woman of color. If that is so, then surely her life as a woman of color has no relevance to my feminism.
Truthfully, I don't really believe that, but given the multitude of feminist blogs out there, I'll take one written by someone who hasn't been sarcastic and condescending to me any day over hers. Anger , bitterness, and the like are often justified, and feelings should be expressed so people can understand the consequences of their actions and build empathy, but I don't think anger works as a method of teaching or motivating.
You can delete this comment if you like. I got out what I needed to get out. And it seems I'm the only one who feels that her comments to me were inappropriate, or that I have any right to be a little insulted her, so, tough sh*t for me. Doesn't seem like there's any point in discussing it further.
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2/9/09 04:54 (UTC)Well, ouch. Thanks for letting me know where I stand with you and your peers.
Incidentally, I'm not a self-described "fledgling feminist." I wrote "even if I am a fledgling in feminist theory compared to you". And that "if" to me means that I acknowledge that buria might know more about feminism than me. But I also acknowledge that that may not be true.
And it's nice that you're perfectly happy to explain away her sarcasm toward me by saying that I insulted her by linking to a feminism 101 blog (because obviously, once you've learned the basics, you will never ever make those mistakes again, so revisiting something from that level of knowledge is utterly valueless and automatically insulting- why didn't I think of that? (see, I can be sarcastic too)), but tell me that I'm too busy taking offense because I don't ask her to explain what I did to deserve her bile? Why is her offensive language towards me perfectly reasonable to you but my taking offense at it not?
(And no, I don't think that comments like "lastly, congrats on "reading a lot of feminist blogs". i write one. feminism isn't a monolith. perhaps one day you'll move beyond mainstream 101 blogs." are meant to be anything other than offensive and insulting.)
You have tried to explain to me why I insulted her (and you) by telling me that I draw a poor analogy, and linked to a feminism 101 blog, and your trying to explain is certainly more consideration than I got from her, but I'm really not buying those reasons as justifications for her actions. After all, you didn't like my analogy either, but felt no need to get sarcastic with me. And, as I implied above, I don't think that linking to that blog should be an automatic insult.
As for the suggestion to read her journal, thanks, but I'll pass. She suggested early on in her exchange to me that my "ciscentric white feminism" is completely irrelevant to her life as a woman of color. If that is so, then surely her life as a woman of color has no relevance to my feminism.
Truthfully, I don't really believe that, but given the multitude of feminist blogs out there, I'll take one written by someone who hasn't been sarcastic and condescending to me any day over hers. Anger , bitterness, and the like are often justified, and feelings should be expressed so people can understand the consequences of their actions and build empathy, but I don't think anger works as a method of teaching or motivating.
You can delete this comment if you like. I got out what I needed to get out. And it seems I'm the only one who feels that her comments to me were inappropriate, or that I have any right to be a little insulted her, so, tough sh*t for me. Doesn't seem like there's any point in discussing it further.