How does he explain the legalization of mixed-race marriages? That wasn't a right the mainstream wanted.
That's a really good point.
I rather agree with Hoshino that the majority must have some reason to want to grant rights to the minority; I rather agree with you, eredien that the way he proposed wouldn't work. And I find myelf rather wanting to read more books about white people during the civil rights movement, men during the Suffrage movement, etc. Because I think we could learn a lot from that.
Because contrary to Hoshino, at the moment, the way I see gay marriage working is that gays want it REALLY A LOT, and most straight people don't care all that much one way or the other. This is definitely what I see in Massachusetts. Some very liberal straight people want gay marriage because that's the kind of social justice they believe in-- but most of the conservative people who aren't opposed to it say, "Well, it's not what I do, and I don't think it's morally right, but I know some nice gay people, and they do seem to want it awfully a lot, and it isn't my or the government's business to interfere with people's lives. I don't believe that the government should be able to do that." Which is a thoroughly respectable conservative position, in my opinion. So I think that for those people, Hoshino's idea of temporarily inflicting domestic partnership would turn them right off the whole thing. I think.
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10/6/08 15:07 (UTC)That's a really good point.
I rather agree with Hoshino that the majority must have some reason to want to grant rights to the minority; I rather agree with you,
Because contrary to Hoshino, at the moment, the way I see gay marriage working is that gays want it REALLY A LOT, and most straight people don't care all that much one way or the other. This is definitely what I see in Massachusetts. Some very liberal straight people want gay marriage because that's the kind of social justice they believe in-- but most of the conservative people who aren't opposed to it say, "Well, it's not what I do, and I don't think it's morally right, but I know some nice gay people, and they do seem to want it awfully a lot, and it isn't my or the government's business to interfere with people's lives. I don't believe that the government should be able to do that." Which is a thoroughly respectable conservative position, in my opinion. So I think that for those people, Hoshino's idea of temporarily inflicting domestic partnership would turn them right off the whole thing. I think.
Interesting post. Write more of these!